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Monday, April 30, 2007

Location Hunt Ended

Well, it's been a hunt, but I've finally settled on a wedding location!

Casa Del Mar, right on the beach in Santa Monica. In case anyone has to plan an LA wedding and asks me what places I looked into, here they are. Prices are very approximate for what I was quoted for Saturday night. Sundays and Fridays are usually at least $2,000 less, sometimes $5,000. Most of these include the use of the venue for 5-7 hours, food, basic drinks (soda, coffee, tea, water, a few alcoholic drinks per person), and service.

CHEAPEST
Chinese banquet (under $15,000): any number of Chinese restaurants could serve up a great meal for $80-100/person, plus another twenty to forty for drinks. But honestly, all the Chinese people have been to the restaurants in LA and aren't going to be impressed by mass-produced banquet food. Visitors from Taiwan really won't be impressed, and most of our younger friends wouldn't be able to party hearty at a Chinese restaurant.

CHEAP-ISH
La Boheme, West Hollywood ($16,000): a lovely restaurant with solid food. I loved the antique look of this place, with cathedral ceilings, stained-glass windows, and fireplace. It felt like a library in a gothic romance. But my mom really didn't like it (I believe her exact words were "old and stinky"), and it's a moot point because they're tearing out the inside and revamping the menu July-September 2007.

Cicada, Downtown ($15,000): this place gets stellar reviews on its banquet food and service, and a lot of people say the art deco decor is amazing. However, art deco isn't really something I adore, and from photos I thought Cicada risked getting the "old and stinky" comment as well. More than anything, though, I just didn't want to serve Italian pasta at my wedding. I didn't really give it a fair chance, I know.

City Club on Bunker Hill, Downtown ($12,000-15,000?): spanning the top floor of the Wells Fargo Building, City Club has 360 degree night views of Los Angeles. However, the photos of the dining room during the day were really dingy looking, so I can only imagine what they look like in real life. Plus, City Club has a really confusing list of extra charges that scared me. I don't like being nickel and dimed for every little thing. I'd rather the quoted price be high and just include all the incidentals like chair rentals. Their menu didn't look very exciting either, though food is reputed to be among the best for private clubs in LA.

Ayres Hotel, Manhattan Beach ($13,000): wedged between the 405 freeway and a Costco parking lot, Ayres did not inspire romance. Instead, it felt like a Holiday Inn masquerading as The Venetian. The decorations in the hotel were cute, but in a fakey Disneyland sort of way. The ballroom had no windows, low ceilings, cheap dividers, and opened up onto their parking lot.

Pasadena Museum of California Art ($15,000): the rental for the museum's top floor includes a terrace and an indoor reception room. J called this place downright ugly because of the exposed piping (it's artistic!). We both agreed that it was too tiny for 100 people. Plus, I'd have to find my own caterer and decorator, which is where the bulk of the cost would be.

Asian Pacific Heritage Museum ($15,00): This is next door to the Pasadena Museum of California Art, and for some reason a lot of Asians like to get married here. Don't they find it a bit cheesy? I guess not. Again, I'd have to bring in my own decorator and catering, and all weddings are completely outdoors in a courtyard. Very risky for a night time event in January. It's really cute if you want the koi pond, paper lanterns, and Chinese architecture for your wedding photos.

MID-RANGE
Verandas ($21,000): I really wanted to have my wedding at Verandas. I really did. The place is lovely, it's only a few blocks from the beach, the coordinators are incredibly nice, the service is reputed to be stellar, and we have a few friends who have attended or held events there and loved it. But I paid $100 to do a food tasting, and they just fell flat. Overly salty, poorly presented, lukewarm, corporate food. I hemmed and hawed a bit, but decided it just wasn't worth it to hold a wedding there. Another flaw with Verandas is their events only go until 10 p.m., and buying a maximum of one hour costs $1250, and service charge is 21% instead of 20% like almost everywhere else.

La Venta ($21,000): The is Verandas's sister location in Rancho Palos Verdes, and the views are SPECTACULAR. If you're doing a day time wedding, you have to at least drive here and look. It was too far for most of my guests, and a waste for a night time wedding, but wow. You really don't know why people love living there until you look at LA across the curve of the water from the cliffs of Palos Verdes. The building itself was slightly worse for wear on the inside, however, but it's very cute in that there's a groom's room and a bridal cottage for pre-wedding preparations.

La Cachette, Century City ($21,000): La Cachette is one of LA's top five French restaurants. For their asking price, we could have had a multi-course dinner and some lovely wines. However, the restaurant is very small. It can't hold many more than 100 people, with no room to spare for a dance floor. The space is designed to be small and intimate, not appropriate for loud partying. A large bridal shower or pre-wedding luncheon would fit in better here. It's a pity, because the menu looked delicious. It also doesn't help that La Cachette is across an alley from a construction site, and there's a port-o-potty by their front door. Ew.

Pacific Palms, City of Industry ($20,000+): This is my nightmare--a big corporate hotel in suburban Los Angeles. A LOT of Chinese brides get married here. The hotel is huge, it's well known, there's a famous golf course, and it's Chinese owned so there are both Western and Chinese menus available. Basically, if you insist on a Chinese meal but don't want a Chinese restaurant's poor ambiance, you have no choice but Pacific Palms. I rejected it out of hand because the food is terrible and venue completely devoid of personality, but I read some forums on it later and was so happy I didn't bother. The $20,000 is their minimum. Then they try to convince you to buy the $1250/table package and nickel dime you on everything: $30 to plug something into an outlet, an extra charge to use the dance floor, chair rentals, cake slicing fee, exhorbitant wine markup (bottles start at about $50 for what should be $10 wine), hidden charges that aren't verbally discussed and pop up after your wedding, etc. Disgraceful, with Chinese style customer service as well (which is to say, pushy and imperious).

Greystone Mansion ($25,000): I didn't look into it too much, but pricing depends on the caterer you choose. However, the entire event has to be outside, and tenting in case of rain is both tacky and expensive. Ditty for a lot of beautiful Los Angeles locations.

EXPENSIVE:
Melisse, Santa Monica ($30,000): another top LA French restaurant. I never even visited because it sounded like prices start a $30,000 for not very much, and skyrocket if you add things like wine, a dance floor, etc.

Bel Air Hotel ($90,000): Um, I e-mailed the hotel asking for a price quote. I think they smelled my comparative poverty because no one ever got back to me. Some Googling turned up a $90,000 minimum. I think it's that high because it includes a full day's use of the grounds, a suite, a swan lake, unlimited champagne, dinner, etc. But still, $900 a guest for just the venue is ridiculous. My mom asked a photographer where he took a photo once, and he said it was at the Bel Air Hotel and the couple spent $30,000 for flowers just to complete the magic. So if they spent that on flowers, I'm sure the venue was more than that.

Various Ritz Carltons (?): I'm sure it's expensive. I didn't really bother finding out details. It's still a little too chainy and corporate for my taste, albeit opulent. If I lived in SF I might look into a 50 person wedding at The Dining Room, but even then it's a long shot.

Biltmore Downtown ($30,000, probably a lot more): I closed the web page after I saw "Meals starting at $200." When a venue tells you its meal price, you should add at 50-75% to get your out the door price. Meal price just means food. On top of that you have to add alcohol, sometimes you have to add soda (tea and coffee are usually includeD), and you need to add tax and a service charge (covers the servers' salaries as well as tip). So for a meal at $200, we were looking at $300-400 a guest. No way. Meal prices had to be under $100 for me to even consider a venue.

Shutters on the Beach ($25,000+): this is Casa Del Mar's sister hotel, but it's very beachy and outdoorsy (white picket fences, etc.) and I thought people would freeze in January. Too risky.

THE WINNER
Casa Del Mar ($35,000--not really; I'll explain): I had seen CDM mentioned in various places, and its sister hotel Shutters on the Beach is an LA institution. However, I wrote it off as being much too big and much too expensive, since the ballroom seats 300 and the Saturday night minimum is $35,000. If I were having a 300 person wedding, it wouldn't be a bad price. But for 100 people, I didn't think it was feasible.

After Verandas fell through, I desparately started looking again and someone suggested CDM for 100 guests. I decided to look into it, and now I'm so glad 'I did. The place is so beautiful that even if the food were as bad as at Verandas, I would lean towards using it just because most people would be so impressed by the venue. However, the restaurant in the hotel is actually pretty darned good, and the director of catering assured me the catering food is just as good.

The ballroom does fit 300, but instead of cheap airwalls it has real walls that slide closed so a smaller ballroom can be created for 100. The ceilings are really high with recessed lighting in even higher domes, so the room feels large. The French doors in back lead right onto the beach and make the room feel open and airy, and the Italian blown glass chandeliers are downright gorgeous. The catering menu looks fabulous, and they're willing to incorporate items we like from the restaurant menu. Wine is reasonable, and a few of our friends have been for cocktails and enjoyed it. It's all very reassuring.

Event minimums include use of the space for 6 hours, dance floor installation, service, food, non-alcoholic drinks, alcoholic drinks, and a cake. They also throw in a hotel room for the night, which is nice since their rooms start at $500/night. Add-ons include service charge, tax, valet parking, and any drinks we consume beyond the minimum. Their Saturday night minimum is $35,000 and their Sunday night minimum is $25,000, but I asked for a winter rate and the hotel was willing to give us a minimum that's high for us but within grasp. At least at CDM I feel like my money's being put to good use.

Like I always say, there's a difference between being expensive and being over-priced. CDM is expensive, more expensive than I would have liked to pay for a wedding, but it's not over-priced. It really is the best location we looked at, and I don't think we'll regret it in the long run. For lack of a better location we had to do what usually works--throw more money at the problem and make it go away forever.

Sunday, Around Town

This was one of those rare weekends when neither of our families or sets of friends had any weekend plans, so we were free to drive around LA aimlessly looking for food.
We started with a hearty breakfast at home. Porridge, vegetables stir fried with sesame oil and soy sauce, part of a BBQ duck we got yesterday, and fresh-squeezed orange juice because we bought a huge sack of oranges for $6.

After a morning of lazing about the apartment, I convinced J to take me to MILK. I wanted him to try the banana ice cream bar with butterscotch shell. As I predicted, he loved the crispy nutty shell. I got the coffee toffee ice cream sandwich. It was good. The cookie was more like a French macaroon, with a crispy outer layer and very chewy bottom. Next time we plan to bring help to tackle the ice cream sundaes.
We then decided to go to the fashion district and wander around, but got distracted by the Mercury high-rise development in Koreatown. We've been following its construction for awhile so we stopped in. Gorgeous, of course, but my god. A 400 square foot "one bedroom" starts at $387,000. That has quotation marks because it's really a studio. Imagine a largish studio apartment with the bed area a raised few steps above the rest of the apartment and separated by an eye-level wall. Yup, an eye-level wall. What the heck? The two bedroom 1400 square foot beauties were all in the low $800,000s (with six floor to ceiling corner windows overlooking all of downtown--gorgeous). HOA fees were between $500-800. My lord. In its defense, The Mercury is centrally located, is right upstairs from a subway stop, has a pool, jacuzzi, gym, and rooftop terrace. That already makes it so much better a deal than the condos around Century City. But still, we're not made of money.
We decided the only treat we were going to be able to afford was another trip to Taco Baja Ensenada. I got another fish taco, this time with better photograph.
But the prettiest photos are of the cocktails. J got a large clam cocktail and I got a medium mixed seafood. Delicious! And no one had to go broke paying for them.

Sunday, April 29, 2007

Bridezilla Rant #2

I wonder how many rants I'll have posted by the time the wedding rolls around? Maybe we should take bets, kind of like guessing how many jelly beans are in a glass jar.

But today's rant is more an organization of my thoughts than a real rant. Weddings are expensive. What have I done to keep costs down, and what more could I do? Let's consider this logically. A "budget bride" I'm not. I've seen budget brides, and I both admire their creativity and envy them their laid back attitude. I'm too anal to be a true budget bride. I'm of the school of thinking that if I'm going to do something, I've got to do it right. I don't want to go broke doing it, but I would like at least one or two things about my wedding to be impressive and special, not for the whole day to exude "I did this because I had to but I'm really cutting the corners here." Better to elope at that point. Plus my mom would kill me.

So here's a picture perfect, The Knot magazine worthy, please die of envy now wedding (ew?):
  • 250 guests
  • high end hotel or country club
  • summer wedding, on a Saturday night
  • cocktail hour, fancy food stations like cheese and caviar, multi-course dinner with expensive entrees, open bar throughout, desserts and an enormous cake.
  • ten piece band
  • celebrity-endorsed photographer for engagement shots, formal studio shots, family portraits, and wedding day shots
  • designer gown, preferably European, plus alterations
  • designer veil, preferably cathedral length
  • designer shoes, preferably Manolos
  • three+ bridesmaids, also in designer gowns
  • tuxes for all men
  • limos for wedding party
  • St. John suiting for mothers of bride and groom
  • elaborate flowers everywhere, bouquets and boutonnieres all around
  • fancy personalized party favors
  • extensive matching wedding stationery: save-the-date cards, invitations, RSVP cards,, reminder cards, placecards, individual menus, programs, and thank you cards.
  • Wedding planner and/or coordinator for the day of the event.

Your head is reeling, right? That's probably a $70,000-100,000 thousand dollar wedding in LA. I probably haven't even included everything. So let's see where I've cut and how much I'm saving:

  • 100-125 guests, no +1 for guests unless they are spouses or girl/boyfriends ($20,000-30,000 on food and drinks alone. Cutting # of guests is the single easiest way to cut spending). Sorry people, no dates unless you find a mate soon!
  • open bar and delish food we couldn't sacrifice, but depending on final number of RSVPs quantity can go up or down at a minute's notice!
  • small independently owned hotel ($10,000)
  • winter wedding on a Sunday ($7,000)
  • locally custom-made gown ($1,200)
  • no veil ($50-300)
  • normal people shoes ($500)
  • two or three bridesmaids in nice dresses but not all matchy matchy ($500-1000)
  • no limos
  • doing my own centerpieces ($1,000-2,000. I might buy one or two professionally done arrangements, but I like large flowers simply arranged in a glass vase more than arduously nipped and tucked arrangements anyway)
  • no extensive stationery, just invitations and thank you cards ($500)
  • edible favors, nothing cheesily engraved or custom-made ($500)

We're still trying to make decisions about invitations, photography, music, and flowers, but we're doing reasonably well.

Saturday, April 28, 2007

Tacos Baja Ensenada

East LA is the greater Los Angeles area's undisputed Mexican food capitol. Today we were in the mood for Ensenada style fish tacos, which have batter-fried fish. We were pleasantly surprised when we got to the restaurant, because there were plenty of other seafood choices as well!

My favorite was the fish taco, which is on the far side of this photo. A nice big piece of crispy deep-fried fish with salsa, crema, and cabbage. The closer taco is a barbacoa taco (BBQ beef, I assume). The meat was juicy and well-seasoned.

The second place flavor winner was the clam cocktail. The sopes, a thick dough (kind of like a pupusa) was topped with carnitas, beans, salsa, lettuce, and crema. Very good, but not as good as everything else.

We got the smallest clam cocktail just to try, but the bigger versions were served in fun glass goblets. This is one of the biggest clams. J missed the stinky black insides, but I was glad the restaurant guts the clams. Talk about a labor intensive $5 dish. There are also shrimp, octopus, scallop, and mixed seafood cocktails. The cocktail ingredients were visible from the kitchen window, and it's rare to smell all those sweet seafood smells so far inland.

J had a fish burrito. It was ENORMOUS. Okay, I don't know if it's enormous by East LA standards, but compared to what we're used to it really was huge for $5.

It was good, but I'm just not a huge burrito fan. I'd rather have three or four tacos than all that rice and beans. I can't eat enough to make a burrito the smart budget decision, so unless there's someone who's going to share with me, I always get tacos.

I really liked the roasted peppers at Tacos Baja Ensenada. They look deadly, but are actually on the sweet side. If you avoid all the seeds, there's actually barely any more heat than is in a bell pepper, and a lot more sweet pepper flavor. But if you do want heat, the seeds are on par with a jalepeno without that offputting grassy flavor.

Friday, April 27, 2007

I Know Nothing About Photography

Or, more precisely, I know nothing about photographing people. I can tell you when a slab of cheesecake isn't in focus, but ask me which of five photos is most emotionally engaging and I'll probably give you the wrong answer.

Still, with the help of a few patient people, I've launched a photographer search and learned a little about the profession (but please, do tell me what I've gotten right and wrong!)

First of all, there are two reasons I need a photographer: to capture the day of the wedding and give me prints of the best shots and a DVD of all shots, and to create a photo album. Other brides might want studio shots, engagement shots, etc. but I'm not worrying about those. I'm just talking about the two basic reasons to have a photographer: taking pictures and making a professional album.

I'm considering using my entire photo budget to hire a GREAT photographer and forego the fancy album for now (which will save me $1000-2000). The photographers all give me possession of all the photos they take in digital form, so I could do an album later on. It might actually work even better to wait a year, see what photos we still like, and put those in an anniversary album. It's just a thought, but I really think having amazing photos of a day that will only happen once is more important than compromising $1000's worth of quality just to have a leather album.

Here are the photographers I've narrowed my search to. Prices are just for photography, no album. Tell me if you agree with these thoughts. I didn't come up with all these thoughts on my own.

$1000, sort of: www.hannahsuh.com
Hannah is good at close up still lifes, and at capturing color. However, her people shots are a little stiff. When I look at the photos, I feel like I am very far away from the subjects. However, Hannah is a friend of a friend and I'm sure she'd put a lot of post production work into the photos.

$500-1000: www.noelhadley.com
Noel is one of the photographers who has a day job (gathering from his blog), which is maybe why his rates are so low. I love his landscape and night shots, but he doesn't have very many people shots in his gallery and the ones he has are super casual. Yes, I'm a casual kind of gal, but for a wedding I'd want a little more formality. Just more questions to ask him, but I'm hoping he's one of those hidden gems.

$2400: www.stevenlamphotography.com
The price hike includes the participation of Steven's assistant/wife, so of course it's more than double the others'. Steven has the most impressive credentials (Vogue, anyone?) but has cultivated the reputation of being not cheesy. As you can imagine, that immediately made me want to work with him. Most importantly, his photos make you feel like you are standing at the scene with his subjects, not peering at them from far away. He gets up and close, captures emotions, and creates very kind of lovely lighthearted images.

$3300: www.nextexitphotography.com
Another husband and wife team. I think they are a little more quirky. They like crazy camera angles and goofy poses, but are generally quite good. I feel like their photos would fit right in on the pages of a zany hipster magazine. I e-mailed the wife a few times and she seems like a super laid back and fun person.

$4000+: Why even consider it?

There were at least a dozen I looked at that were just gawdawful. Why would you pay someone who takes blurry photos, washed out photos, who can't print a crisp postcard, or whose entire web portfolio consists of black and white shots?

Thursday, April 26, 2007

More Muscles for Me

Not the most pleasant of photos, but I haven't bragged in awhile.

Squates are my friend. My only regret is that I waited until I was 25 to start doing them regularly.

Fusion Omelet

More creativity with leftovers.
Heat up one flour tortilla in a skillet until it's just warm, then set aside. Meanwhile, beat two eggs. Chop up a handful of Chinese leeks (or spinach, chives, green onions--whatever you've got) and toss it into the skillet and cook a little. Pour in the beaten eggs and scramble until about a third of it is still runny. Flatten into a pancake and press the tortilla onto the top. The uncooked parts of the egg will help the tortilla to stick to the omelet. Flip carefully (I can toss and turn an omelet pretty well, you should try it!), brown the bottom of the tortilla, and roll up.

New Tree Chocolate

I was unexpectedly whisked away to dinner at Kiriko last night, so you get no photos. But here are some chocolate pictures I ripped off the internets. I went to The Wine House to check out some of the wines on Casa Del Mar's wine list, and ended up buying chocolate too. Seriously, The Wine House probably has the best chocolate selection in West LA.

New Tree is a Belgian company, and in general Belgian chocolates are my favorite. They have a relatively soft bite to them, and even the darkest chocolates have a creamy texture along with very concentrated flavors. French chocolates, while equally concentrated in flavor, have a very hard snap and a tendency to crumble as you chew. English, Canadian, and American chocolate tend to be too sugary and bland. South American chocolates are kind of a crapshoot but are really starting to come into their own.
The gimmick with New Tree chocolates is that they have new age names like "Renew" "Vigor" and "Rejoice." The names vaguely correspond with the ingredients. "Sexy," for example, has spicy ginger in it and "Forgiveness" has a high fiber cactus extract reputed to reduce food cravings (hm, for real?)

Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Casa Del Mar Deux

I met with the director of catering at Casa Del Mar today. Everything's looking swell. I gave her some questions to look over, she answered some of my questions. There shouldn't be too much intense haggling left, we're just hoping to up the food a little before we put down our deposit.

Meanwhile, I'm really starting to like Casa Del Mar. First and foremost, the food is fantastic. I had a lobster sandwich today. The bread was toasty, buttery, and eggy--a very respectable sandwich brioche. There were huge chunks of ripe avocado, decent tomatoes for this time of year, and a generous amount of sweet fresh lobster tail. There weren't weird lobster bits like they were leftover from making something else, and the quality was fantastic. I also appreciated the use of butter lettuce instead of slightly more bitter Romaine or super boring iceberg.
Second, you can't beat that view. For once I regretted not having a camera with a panoramic option.
Third, the place is adorable and the service is top notch. I sat around the lounge reading a book for half an hour. A few servers stopped by to ask me if I wanted a drink, other people sat around using the WiFi and reading newspapers mounted on those wooden racks (anyone much younger than I am probably doesn't even remember those). It's a very nice, quiet, civilized place to spend a sunny afternoon.

Kalbi and Snap Peas, Plus Chocolate Cupcakes

We've been having a lot of noodles and clear soup lately, so the pictures aren't pretty. But last night I also marinated some short ribs, pan grilled them, and then added some snap peas to the pan so we'd have some meat and vegetables as well.
Last week I baked Martha Stewart's one bowl chocolate cupcakes for a friend's birthday. It really is my favorite cupcake recipe. It's incredibly easy to put together (one bowl!), the cakes are very fluffy, and if you just pay a little extra for good cocoa powder you're bound to astonish everyone with your skills. Some good cocoa powder choices are Scharffen Berger, Penzey's, Valhrona instead of Hershey's or Ghiardelli--and NEVER use Nestle.
For the frosting, I tried a Southern gravy frosting for the first time. The texture is fluffier and smoother than plain buttercream. I loved it; it was almost like a cross between buttercream and marshmallow fluff. I thank "Axalady" from Chowhound for this recipe:
  • 2 tablespoons cornstarch or 4 tablespoons flour (I used cornstarch both times I did this)
  • 1 cup whole milk, at room temperature if you want to save yourself some time
  • 1 cup room temperature butter (do use good butter, like Plugra. It's only $3 at Trader Joe's for a pound, which is two cups)
  • 1 cup sugar (I found this too sweet and a little gritty. Buy baker's sugar or process your sugar in a food processor until it's powdery, and use only 3/4 cup)
  • 1 teaspoon vanilla (Nielsen-Massey is my favorite)

Whisk the cornstarch and milk together and heat over a medium flame. Lower the flame if you're afraid you'll burn it, but be aware it will take forever. Whisk slowly but constantly. The milk will take awhile to heat up. When it starts frothing up, you're getting close and should definitely keep whisking. It will thicken up quite suddenly. Lower the heat and keep whisking until the milk forms a ribbon when you lift the whisk as opposed to just dripping off. Set aside to cool to room temperature.

Beat butter and sugar until it is fluffy and not grainy when you rub it between two fingers. Slowly add vanilla and milk mixture, and beat until fluffy like frosting. The time it takes to become fluffy will depend on the precise temperature of all your ingredients, but don't sweat it. If you keep beating it, you'll get there.

This is quite possibly the world's most perfect frosting (for me, anyway). It smells divine and has an unctious texture that's hard to describe but had me licking it out of the bowl. It doesn't become grainy the way chocolate ganache can, it's not hard to make like some European style frostings, it's not as dense and sweet as American buttercream, it won't melt at room temperature like a whipped cream frosting, and it's more versatile than the delicious cream cheese frosting.

Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Santa Monica Beach Run

A change of pace today. I went to the beach to check out the area around Casa Del Mar. The hotel is only half a mile from Santa Monica Place (the mall at the end of 3rd Street Promenade) so I parked in the free mall parking and took a run to the hotel.
Starting from the pier, I ran across the bridge,
down the overpass over PCH,
across the pier,
across the original site of Muscle Beach,
admired this middle-aged man who was swinging back and forth across the rings like it was no big deal,
across the back of the hotel (see how close it is to the beach? The doors below the arches lead into the ballroom),
kept going for about another half mile,
and turned back around to admire the view. I could barely make out the ferris wheel from a mile away (on the left between the two clusters of palm trees), but from the hotel (red brick roof on the right) it's plainly visible from behind the hotel.
On my run back I stopped at the muscle beach area to hang out with all the fit people. There are ropes to climb, pull up bars, parallel bars, little rails on which to practice tightrope walking, monkey bars, and swings. What's really fun is that everything comes in adult and child sizes so little kids can try everything too.
I did a few sets of push ups with my feet up on child-sized parallel bars, and then hung upside down from some monkeybars and did hanging crunches. I hung upside down facing the ocean so every time I finished a crunch I got to see the waves. It was nice to be a kid again, goofing off on monkey bars. And yes, my abs are on fire.

Monday, April 23, 2007

Empress Harbor Dim Sum

Nothing too exciting from this trip to a dim sum restaurant we hadn't visited in awhile. Good food, not too crowded at noon on a Saturday, but nothing to go out of the way for. Fun photos, though!

And in workout news, I'm now curling 20 lbs! I'm curling them with difficulty, but the gym doesn't have 17 lb. dumbbells for me to work up with so I'm doing my best. I got in three sets of five at the end of my workout. I'm going to try it towards the beginning next time and see if I can do seven.




Sunday, April 22, 2007

Bridezilla Rant #1

Regarding walking down the aisle...

I have four bold-faced, blood-red, extra large words for you:
I'm not doing it.

Yes, I know I'm being ornery. Yes, I know people will be disappointed. Yes, I know it's weird. But I'm not asking permission, I'm just clarifying my intent so people can stop asking me about it and looking at me with horror on their faces when I say I'm not having a traditional ceremony. What is "traditional," anyway, and whose tradition trumps whose?

Reasons not to walk down the aisle:

  1. I know millions of non-religious brides walk down the aisle, and I'm well aware that the tradition has Pagan roots. However, it smacks of Christianity to me and I would feel like a sham bride if I did it. I'm not religious and neither is my family, so I wouldn't be doing it out of respect for religious parents. On the contrary, I feel like hijacking a solemn tradition that many brides do take seriously would be rather insulting.
  2. The idea of being given away really grates on my nerves. No offense to all the little girls out there who want to be tearfully ushered down the aisle by their daddies, but it's not hard to see this tradition for the sexist bullshit that it is. Why doesn't the mom get to give the daughter away? She gave birth to her, for crissakes. And why doesn't anyone have to give the groom away? Didn't his parents have to work just as hard to raise him as the bride's parents did to raise her? Don't the groom's parents deserve a moment to shine too?
  3. I have stage fright. The thought of marching down an aisle to choreographed music while a hundred plus people stare and point cameras at me scares the living daylights out of me.
  4. It's sooo cheesy. The Bridal March, the Canon in D...haven't we seen it enough? I remember going to a Pentecostal wedding. That's three hours of my life I'm never getting back.

This is not to say we don't want my family and friends to bear witness to our union, or that I don't have some kind of ceremony planned. It just won't be like in the movies. There will be no aisle, no Bridal March, no blushing bride on the arm of a proud father, no flower girl with a basket of petals, and no ministers.

So what will there be? J and I are deciding on the details, but there will be speeches, there will be vows, there will be a gesture to honor our parents, there will be toasts, there will be laughter, and there might even be a few tears. We want to take the elements from Chinese and Western marriage ceremonies that we actually find meaningful, and then update and personlize these elements so they fit the two of us in our place and our time. A generic ceremony is hollow; we hope to create a ceremony that will surprise our guests but also show everyone that we care enough about each other, our family, and our friends to express that love in a truly unique way.

End rant. I'm sure there will be many more in the months to come.

Harold and Belle's

We're getting better at this! I know there are bullets all over this target, but we clustered each round of shots on a different area of the body to make the shots distinguishable from each other. It's not like we're completely disgraceful.

Hungry from all the target practice, we went to Harold and Belle's for some Cajun food. I got the mixed seafood platter with cornmeal batter fried catfish, shrimp, and oysters. My favorites were the oysters and the smokey red beans and rice.
J got the jambalaya platter and half a chicken. Needless to say, we had a ton of leftovers. Yet another LA restaurant that I would like even more if they would decrease both their portion size and prices. I think living in SF shrank my expectation of restaurant portions.
Too full to go straight to bed, I stayed up and finished the whale quilt I've been working on for the last few days. It's so cute, I'm keeping it for myself as a summer blanket. I love the colors. The border is green and yellow, and the squares are alternating green and blue whales and fish and white with green polka dots.

Friday, April 20, 2007

Miso Peanut Noodles

This is a good quick meal for using up odds and ends in the fridge.
Boil a quart of water, putting in half a sliced onion and any harder vegetables you are using (carrots, rehydrated dried mushrooms, or the white parts of napa cabbage, for example). Let summer until everything is cooked through. Meanwhile, add three heaping tablespoons of miso and one heaping tablespoon of unsweetened, unsalted peanut butter to the water. Taste for saltiness and adjust.
Add a block of frozen udon, turn the heat up to let the liquid come back up to a boil, and turn down and simmer until the udon is thawed out. Add your softer vegetables (spinach, pea shoots, tong hau, etc.) and any meat or seafood you have around. Like I said, there are no rules with this. I just threw in all the bits of vegetables we had left from eating a week of hot pot. The important part is the miso-peanut combination, which is fantastic. If I'd had some sesame paste I would have added that too. A dash of sake or ponzu would also work well.

Peet's Coffee

I love Peet's Coffee.

The thing I love most about Peet's is its consistent high quality. On its best day, Clementine makes a better latte than Peet's. But I've had at least one latte at Clementine that tastes slightly burnt. Peet's can be counted on to be at least very good, and sometimes stellar. I just like the way they roast their beans on the light side so there's plenty of sweetness and almost never any bitter or sour flavor.

This will be the last purple quilt photo, I promise. I just wanted to get in one shot of the whole thing, finished and sitting on the couch. Now all I need to do is wash it so it's ready for the baby to use. I can go back to knitting Claire's sweater now (sleeves done!).

Thursday, April 19, 2007

Baby Blanket Done

All done! No time for food today. I was too busy trying to finish this project and contacting various venues about nailing down a wedding location. I don't want to get my hopes up--again--but I think I'm getting closer. More pretty photos here.


I decided on striped fabric for the backing. T suggested a solid dark purple, but the store didn't have one that matched my front. I found a matching basked for a dollar, too.


N asked what the pattern was on the lavendar squares: sheep!

Wednesday, April 18, 2007

Catch at Casa del Mar

Checked out another venue today, and the difference was night and day.

Casa del Mar is a gorgeous boutique hotel right on the ocean (as gorgeous as a Tattinger rose). Most of the decor is Old World--cozy and warm. I did notice that when you enter the hotel it's quite dark and grand, what with the double staircases and overstuffed armchairs scattered in the dim lounge. As you walk toward the back of the lobby where the floor to ceiling windows overlook the beach, however, the furniture becomes gradually more casual as the room lightens up to let in the California sun, swapping out leather and mahogany for canvas and wicker. It's a subtle transition but one that saves the hotel from being cheesy.

For lunch I had skate wing. I wanted one of the beautiful salads that everyone else was having, but I thought it was more important to see what the kitchen could do with a piece of fish than a leaf of lettuce.

In a word, fantastic. The fish was crispy on the outside, moist on the inside, and the portion was enormous. The chard was wilted until it lost its bitterness but not its color, and the giant white beans were cooked slowly so they would become soft on the inside without popping their delicate skins.

Casa del Mar is expensive, but at least I can see why. The staff is accomodating (I'm always thrilled when someone will sell me a half glass of champagne, which is all I can have at lunch), the food is solid, the price actually was good by LA standards for how much food I got, and the menu has a Californian sensibility befitting the venue and which sets it apart from other LA establishments. This is promising, if a little painful on the wallet.


I mulled over my thoughts about my lunch while starting a baby quilt. Who's baby will get this? Still deciding...

Close up. Not all the squares are perfectly lined up, but who needs perfect when it's oh so cute? The outside is gingham, the white squares have lavendar polka dots on them, and the lavendar squares have fluffy sheep on them. And no, I'm not a lavendar freak, but one of the girls I'm thinking of giving this to really likes lavendar so I thought it'd be safe. Tomorrow: batting and backing.

Tuesday, April 17, 2007

New York Food Company

My sister and I stuffed ourselves silly at the New York Food Company corporate office this afternoon, as a test run for a possible food venue. Consensus: the food isn't bad, but it's far from perfect. Food at both La Boheme and Kitchen for Exploring Foods was better, but given Verandas's adorable venue and stellar staff I'm willing to consider them.

We tried six hors d'oeuvres today, ranging from great to mediocre. We'll work clockwise from the lamb lollipops, which were over-marinated and rubbery. The prosciutto and arugula stuffed in tomatoes were cute and refreshing, the caviar and smoked salmon on potatoes was a little heavy on the potatoes, the deep-fried cheese-stuffed artichokes were pretty yummy if a little enormous, the pulled pork biscuits were tasty but heavy on the dough, and the foie gras french toast was tasty in a very different, remniscent of breakfast sort of way. None of these wowed, sadly.

The salads, on the other hand, did wow. My sister preferred this citrus and jicama salad on butter lettuce.
I preferred the Maytag bleu cheese salad with candied pecans, but thought the dressing could use much less pepper. We both agreed the pecans on this were astoundingly good.
The swordfish was just plain terrible. Marinated until rubbery, overcooked, and served on a bed of bland vegetables. This was borderline plane food.

The osso bucco was much better, but the bordelaise sauce it was in was much too salty. If this entree had been less salty, and if they had doused the beef with a little juice before serving, it would have been quite nice. The beef itself was braised until incredibly tender, I'll give them that.

Not a complete failure of a lunch, but I wasn't head over heels about anything I tried either. Now comes the tough decision: the plating (presentation of food), quality of ingredients, and food at La Boheme are all superior (click the link and let me know what you think), but the venue at Verandas is really quite adorable. Which is more important for a wedding? Hard to say...


Monday, April 16, 2007

Hot Pot, Day 2

Another day of hot pot. I wasn't kidding when I said we'll be eating this all week. No fresh shellfish today, but I did find some tiger prawns in the freezer.
But let's talk sauces today, since hot pot is nothing without a few great sauces. The first is a simple ponzu dip. A Japanese restaurant would have plenty of grated daikon in this, but I didn't have any. I also cut the ponzu with about half as much water and a splash of sugar syrup.
The second was sesame sauce. This brand is pretty watery, I'm not sure I'd recommend it at all. I mixed about an eighth of a cup of it with a tablespoon of Trader Joe's unsalted, unsweetened peanut butter and two tablespoons of sesame seeds. The peanut/sesame combination is especially good with pork.
On the non-food front, the sweater is progressing swiftly. This is definitely not a cursed project.

Kabocha Curry Udon

I love kabocha, but I'm always looking for new ways to use it. Inspired by a dish I had at Medicine Eatstation in San Francisco, I tried my hand at kabocha curry udon today. This makes enough for two people.


Most important is the udon. In the past, only dried and vacuum-packed udon were available. Both were pretty bad. Now, there's frozen udon available at most Asian markets, and the quality is excellent. The noodles have a nice bounce to them, and while they're done as soon as you heat them through, they're very hard to overcook even if you leave them in simmering water for ten minutes. Sanuki happens to be the brand I've been buying, but there are four or five brands available now.
  • four slices kabocha squash (guesstimate and cut enough to fill a cup if you were to dice them)
  • half an onion, quartered
  • half a carrot (or a whole carrot)
  • curry powder
  • salt
  • pepper

Simmer the vegetables in just enough water to cover them. Pour the vegetables and half a cup of the cooking liquid into a blender and blend. Add water as needed to bring the mixture to a curry consistency. Add a teaspoon of curry powder or more to taste, and salt and pepper as needed.

Put two frozen blocks of udon in hot water just to melt them enough that you can break them apart and put them into the curry. Add cubes of tofu, chicken, vegetables, or mushrooms if you like.

Sunday, April 15, 2007

Hot Pot at Home

We needed veggies. Lots of veggies. I think I shall dub this photo "Plate O' Plenty."


I love my giant green plate (it's over two feet wide in diameter--I guess it's really a platter), and I hardly ever get to use it. But this week, we're going to use it every day because we are on a hot pot kick. I cleaned, towel-dried, and cut up a ton of vegetables today and stacked them in plastic containers in the refrigerator. We have napa cabbage, tong hau, baby pea shoots, watercress, chinese okra (more like a squash), kabocha, white corn, carrots, beech mushrooms, fresh shitake mushrooms, sliced lamb, sliced pork, silken tofu, fried tofu, deep fried tofu, and a fish ball variety pack. Today we also had oysters and clams, but obviously we're not going to have that every day because they need to be fresh. It's going to be a fun week eating our way through all that rabbit food. It's like stone soup--every day's a little different.

In anticipation of our week-long hot pot festival, we sprang for ponzu sauce and Japanese sesame-peanut hot pot sauce. Usually I like my Chinese hot pot blend, but we needed to mix it up a little.

101 Noodle Express

We went to 101 Noodle Express a few weeks ago with J's family, and I developed a serious craving for their famous beef roll so we were back this weekend:

The beef roll is a thing of beauty, and it's practically a meal for two at a measly $6. I think every person who is considering opening a restaurant needs to have a dish like this up his sleeve. It's innovative in that I've never seen this exact dish in all of the San Gabriel Valley, but the flavors are all familiar and comforting. This dish won't drive anyone away with bizarre flavors--it'll only leave you wanting more with no alternative restaurant at which to procure it. Brilliant! Read Jonathon Gold's review here for the location and contact information.

101 Noodle Express has a respectable display case of traditional northern cold dishes. Since there were only two of us, we had to forego the sampler platter and settle for some sliced firm tofu. This dish is a favorite among Chinese children because it's noodley and sesame flavored.

We tried what they call their "all lamb" soup, which actually had some pork lungs and tripe in it. Oh well, we love all those funky body parts. The soup itself was very nice--slow-cooked lamb bones, a few chunks of lamb shoulder, and a generous amount of white pepper. This is the kind of soup that feeds the soul.

Total bill, after tax, was $18. Even with current gas prices, our wallets fared better with us driving 20 minutes to eat there instead of eating in our neighborhood!

Happy Birthday!

My youngest sister's 21st birthday is this week, so we got together to throw her an early birthday party.

I started preparing two days before the party by making a red velvet cake. My other sister and our ten year old cousin had a field day decorating it with chocolate mint balls and crazy candles. Check out my mom's gorgeous Venetian glass. She's jokingly said that each daughter and son-in-law will get one goblet upon marriage (there are indeed six) and she'll keep the decanter, but I plan to steal the entire thing. Muahahaha...
The night before, I braised some short ribs in red wine and port.
I had planned on mussels for appetizers, but 99 Ranch was out! Ever clever, J suggested we get a $31 case of Pacific oysters. We arrived home with a giant box filled with six dozen giant oysters, ready to get down to business.
Isn't that oyster frightening in its sheer enormity? J was the hero of the day, shucking dozens of enormous oysters with no oyster shucker. The best we could find for him was a flat head screwdriver!
Meanwhile, I chopped up some spinach, onions, and parsley and sauteed them in plenty of Plugra butter to make oysters Rockefeller.
I was so glad I brought the cake and ribs prepared. All I had to do was cook up a pot of polenta, blanch some vegetables, and bake up the oysters. I'm definitely a fan of doing a lot in advance so I can enjoy the party. Plus, my mom and I have very different cooking styles so she often doesn't have the ingredients and tools I always have on hand. It's easier to transport a pot of ribe than to bring over all the boxes and bottles of ingedients that go into it!

Four Sea

Four Sea remains my favorite place to eat a Taiwanese breakfast (click here for previous post). Not 100% of the menu is amazing, but for variety and overall quality it can't be beat. And even the dishes that they don't do well can't really be found elsewhere in LA either, really solidifying their place at the top of the Taiwanese breakfast game.
My favorite, savory soy milk. Think of it more as a tofu soup.
No, wait, the daikon pastry might be my favorite. It's a pastry filled with soft hot shredded daikon and white pepper.
Sao bing filled with beef and pickled vegetables. Four Sea really does do this dish better than anyone I've found in LA. It's always fresh and hot, probably because they get a high turnover on it.
Wa gue (literally "bowl cake" in Taiwanese). This is a close cousin to a pan-fried daikon/turnip cake that you'd find at most dim sum restaurants. It's usually more dense, is topped with a soy sauce egg and ground pork, and comes in a garlic soy sauce.
We made the mistake of ordering a northern Chinese dish, leek pastries. Bleh. Not good at all. J said the versions I've tried my hand at are better, which dissuaded me from even taking a bite. I'm not really a fan of this in the first place, and I'm not very good at making anything northern Chinese, so the fact that this was worse than my attempts was pretty sad.
There was also a cold tofu in ginger sugar water that wasn't very good, so I didn't take a photo. Total bill for the two of us was about $15.

Friday, April 13, 2007

Mizu 212

We were both in the mood for a light dinner tonight, so we headed to Sawtelle to try Mizu 212°. "Mizu" means "water" in Japanese, so it's an appropriate name for a shabu shabu restaurant.

The restaurant is set up around a large central bar, with a few tables for four scattered in the corners. Each person has his/her own pot of water on a hot plate, ponzu sauce, sesame/peanut sauce, a saucer, and a utensil set that includes a strainer and a ladle.
Mizu 212° gets very good reviews about its vegetables, and I can see why. Everything was fresh and tasty, and there was a nice variety of greens. I love kabocha squash, so I was happy to see it here. The fish dumpling was also a nice surprise, and very tasty. I will order a few more of these next time.
I ordered black pork, and J ordered beef (not pictured). His beef was fine, but I contend that pork does better in shabu shabu because the meat stays more tender. And I am a beef-loving gal, so for me to say that really means it's great. We both agreed the pork went better with the sesame sauce.
Service at Mizu 212° is fantastic! One server in particular was head and shoulders above the rest. We suspect she's the owner, or at least in the family. She knew several of the customers, was extremely friendly, and ran around the bar making sure everyone's beer glasses were full and helping them skim the skum (floaties, as she calls them) off the top of their soups. Then, when we insisted we were too full for dessert, she brought us each a spoonful of gelato just to try and said we would have to come back next time and leave room for dessert.
Total bill was $47 after tax, a rare find in LA. The next time it's chilly out, you'll probably find us at Mizu 212°.

Alpacas Galore!

Well, I received part of Claire's tax return in the mail today:



No, I'm not a criminal. Claire decided that it's high time she had an alpaca sweater to keep her warm during those crazy DC winters, and I thought it was high time I put together a real sweater made from high quality yarn (did you click the alpaca link? Because trust me, you want to click it). Hence, our latest experiment in symbiosis. So far I've completed both cuffs for the two sleeves. I'm knitting them simultaneously to ensure that they are exactly the same length when complete.


Don't worry, I'll be cooking later. The yarn is cute enough to eat though, and it reminds me of my stand mixer because it's exactly the same shade.

Thursday, April 12, 2007

Road Rage (aka. I Hate LA)

Travelling east from my apartment, there's a left-turn lane that's kind of confusing. Basically, two cars can drive up to the edge and wait to merge onto the main road. Then there's a car's length of road that says KEEP CLEAR in huge white letters on the concrete (so cars going the other day can get through), and then the rest of the people drying to merge need to wait behind that. I'm so angry I drew a picture. If you're going east (up) you have to stop because the sign is facing you, but if you're going west you're supposed to just drive through.

Of course, people don't grasp the concept of the "keep clear" sign. I was driving west, and I slowed down because I saw a car barreling down the road like it had no intention of stopping behind the "keep clear" sign. Predictably, it didn't. So I gave the driver my best "Can penetrate two layers of glass and the fifteen feet in between" glare. It must have worked, because she looked over and stopped talking on her cell phone long enough to mouth some curse words at me and wave her hands. She then refused to pull forward and let me get around her in any way, even when a car in front her her merged and there was plenty of space. She just sat there and gave me this "oh well, too bad for you" look.

Obviously she did not realize how ludicrous she looked, parked ON TOP of a "keep clear" sign and widely gesticulating at me like I was doing something wrong. Hello, moron, I'm through traffic. Even the driver behind her me gave me this "What is wrong with that b--?" look as she backed up to let me through.

I hate L.A. If you're lucky enough to not have to drive every day, or live somewhere where driving is still a pleasure, count your blessings.

Mish-Mash Meatloaf

I don't know what it is, but it was good with steamed rice and stir-fried napa cabbage. I wish I had a recipe, but I don't. It's a meat and vegetable loaf with a Vietnamese twist, but not quite like those pork patties you sometimes get with a Vietnamese rice plate.
Fine, I confess, it's the equivalent of a leftover casserole. I mashed together a carrot, some spinach, a portabello mushroom, some wood ear mushrooms, a pound of ground pork, three eggs, some matzoh meal (!), and a lot of nuoc cham (fish sauce with garlic, chili, and lime juice). Then I poured it into a loaf pan and baked at 375 for an hour, cooled it a little, sliced it up, and called it dinner. Surprigingly good, and Mr. I Love Meatballs enjoyed it.
Lunch was Kraft American cheese and chopped ham on buttered potato bread. Who says I'm a yuppity eater? Today was strictly blue collar eats.

Wednesday, April 11, 2007

Fallen Fruit

I love the philosophy behind www.fallenfruit.org. Their message is one that is creative, economical, promotes beauty, educates our community, and is generous of spirit. I really don't see any downside to supporting their mission. Here's an excerpt of their manifesto:

A SPECTER is haunting our cities: barren landscapes with foliage and flowers, but nothing to eat...Our cities are planted with frivolous and ugly landscaping, sad shrubs and neglected trees, whereas they should burst with ripe produce. Great sums of money are spent on young trees, water and maintenance...

WE ASK all of you to petition your cities and towns to support community gardens and only plant fruit-bearing trees in public parks...Demand that all parking lots be landscaped with fruit trees which provide shade, clean the air and feed the people...

FALLEN FRUIT is a mapping and manifesto for all the free fruit we can find. Every day there is food somewhere going to waste. We encourage you to find it, tend and harvest it. If you own property, plant food on your perimeter. Share with the world and the world will share with you...

Tuesday, April 10, 2007

Tiramisu, Part II

I'm kind of over the tiramisu. It was good, but it's a long shot from being my favorite dessert. Can anyone explain to me the general craze over tiramisu? I can think of at least five people who would call it their "favorite dessert" or go gaga whenever they see it in a bakery case. Name me one great quality of a tiramisu--it's creamy, it's chocolatey, it's boozey--and I'll name several desserts that do it better. The only unique thing about a tiramisu is the mascarpone, and I feel like the delicate flavor of a good mascarpone is drowned out by all the brandy and egg yolks in tiramisu. My next goal is to find a recipe that lets the mascarpone shine.


Don't get me wrong, tiramisu is good. But I don't think it deserves a place in the pantheon of great desserts. It's not really a cake, it's not a cookie, it's not a mousse. In fact, it's no more than a boozed up trifle, an English concoction of shortcake, fruit, and whipped cream that no one really loves.


I'm hoping to finish this scarf tomorrow. This is my first ball of soy yarn. That's right, soy yarn! The fiber is created out of residue from tofu making. It's environmentally friendly, doesn't stretch or wrinkle with washing, and can be as soft as cashmere depending on the manufacturer. This brand felt a little more like wool, but the dye job was one of the best I've seen. I couldn't catch it in artificial light, but the gold part of it really glows in the sunlight like the whole thing had been sprayed with fine gold dust. I was so mesmerized when I saw it in the store window I had to get a ball.

Mario Batali's Tiramisu

I spent my morning redefining shameless self-promotion:

I can't wait to take a bite, but for now it needs to mellow in the fridge. I bought imported Italian mascarpone for the first time last week, and I'll never go back. It's not more expensive than domestic, and the difference is astounding. Import has a creamy, almost yogurt-like consistency and a natural sweetness that had me eating the stuff out of the container. Domestic is usually hard like cream cheese and bland.

Monday, April 09, 2007

Drunken Chicken

A trip to Mei Long Village this weekend left us with cravings for a whole drunken chicken. I adapted a recipe from a cookbook and ended up doing the following:
Steam a whole chicken for 34 minutes to an hour. Try to find at least a free range chicken, or a "yellow fur" chicken from a Chinese market. I used a pasta pot to keep the chicken out of the liquid. The bottom layer has water, a knob's worth of sliced ginger, two scallions, and a splash of shao shing wine. The chicken has the fat trimmed off, some holes poked all over to let fat drip out, and a knob's worth of sliced ginger and two torn up scallions stuffed inside.
Allow the chicken to cool. Meanwhile, mix together:
  • 1/4 cup shao shing wine
  • 2 teaspoons sugar
  • 1 1/2 teaspoons salt
  • dash of white pepper
  • 3 tablespoons of the steaming liquid (once you're done steaming the chicken)

Cut the chicken into pieces like you'd get if you got chicken at a Chinese restaurant. I tossed the pieces in the marinade, but you can arrange the chicken carefully in a container an